Comments on: New version of Lyz released

By: zeigerpuppy

zeigerpuppy — Sun, 11 Jul 2010 11:02:02 +0000

Thanks, it is quite a weird behaviour.
It may be that there is something in the LyX setup that is causing it,
please email me if you need any more details of my setup.

By: Petr

Petr — Sun, 11 Jul 2010 08:04:10 +0000

Hi,
You stumbled upon something. That appears to be a problem in Lyx, because Lyz uses it’s server to send commands and the only command available is citation-insert. So I don’t see a way Lyz could do anything about this behaviour. I try find out more about it.
The citation key has no effect on that. It only affects the format of citation keys (in the bibtex file).
Cheers
Petr

By: zeigerpuppy

zeigerpuppy — Sun, 11 Jul 2010 07:24:25 +0000

I fixed that part, I think I may have mistyped the setting,
however, had one more question. The way that LyZ formats the reference is a little different to LyX.

In LyX, I get, for example: (Mates et al., 1994)
while LyZ gives: Mates et al. (1994)

this causes problems for the document as references are not properly bracketed.
Interestingly, if I click on the reference in LyX and the click OK, it fixes the format, but it would be good having this as default from LyZ

My LyZ setting is “author _ title _ year” but “author title year” does the same
I have also tried “( author title year )”, there appears to be no difference.
I’m not sure if this is a LyZ problem or a LyX bug?

I am using natbib (author-year)
the format of the bibliography is plainnat

Thanks for your assistance, I hope these queries help to make LyZ more usable for everyone!

By: Petr

Petr — Thu, 17 Jun 2010 12:25:51 +0000

Hi,
that’s strange. I’ve just tried that and it works quite well. I don’t see how ‘time’ could appear there. Does that happen with all your citations?
Cheers
Petr

By: zeigerpuppy

zeigerpuppy — Thu, 17 Jun 2010 01:01:17 +0000

Thanks so much for LyZ, it’s a really useful addon that hopefully will be integrated into Zotero at some point.

The plugin works fine with the following process:
1) create LyX document and insert bibliography
2) use LyZ to pipe new references to LyZ

I assume that LyX somehow knows how to pick up the references in the refs.bib.lyz~ file.
All fine up to this point.
However, if I try moving the document, the references break
I also noticed that they are in a different form than the Zotero/Bibtex/LyX standard.

When I insert references the old way, they are referenced as [author_title_year]
but Lyz inserts them as [authoryeartite].

This means that when I update the bibtex file or move the document folder, the LyZ inserted references are broken.

I tired changing the LyZ preferences to author_title_year but it doesn’t understand this syntax.
Any ideas of how to solve the problem?
Also could you explain how LyX finds the references in the lyz temp file.
I have had problems with the “Update Bibtex” command in LyZ, so I do not use it…

Thanks again for the great software, I am very greatful as it is a part of my daily workflow.